Starting an Apostolic Hub

19 06 2014

I heard God” when I decided leaving Institutional church system behind of which I’ve spent 9 years in it. That was in 1999 then. He did not actually told me to ‘stop’ doing something but instead He told me to ‘start’ doing something ‘new’ by leaving the ‘old.’ Simply put, obedience requires you to ‘stop doing what you are currently doing’ in order for you to do what God has told you to do. With a small band of brothers with me we’ve started ‘experimenting’ on what is called ‘house church.’ And what was suppose to be a response to the calling became an 8-long years of maintaining these small churches with meetings-after-meetings. We had more meetings than when I was in the institutional churches. I had built a ‘house church ministry’ based on what God has told me to do eight years ago! The problem with that is obvious: I did not ‘continue’ hearing God.

 

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path” said the Psalmist (119:105). This Scripture doesn’t promise us that God will give us light to brighten up the whole street that we are going to walk upon but only provide a light to our ‘next step’ to set our foot in! That is why seeking Him what to do next requires trust as we obey, not trying to ‘figured out first’ before we obey. “Seek ye first the kingdom” it says. It didn’t say, “Figure out first the kingdom.” Many of us when we hear what God wants us to do are so excited to do them without listening ‘continually’ to His instructions along the way. The result is clear enough, the’ work’ becomes ‘all about you and me’ and not ‘about Him’ anymore. Remember, that if God could have given us ‘lists of things’ on what to do for the rest of our lives He could not have given us His Holy Spirit! So, let’s be guided by Him because the work that we do is not ours, were never ‘ours’ and it will never be ‘become’ ours but His ‘alone.’ God is a jealous God, He would never share His glory with men who are like ‘flowers that would wither and fade away.’ (1Pet.1:24)

He ‘killed’ us both first, me and my wife, of our own desires and opinions about the church and His kingdom. Anyhow, that’s what the first calling anyway to anyone who wants to follow Jesus to “deny yourselves and take up your own cross daily” of which the goal is to crucify yourself unto death. Death to self. Before we’re even married I told my wife that ‘my heart is to go from place to place starting something and then leave.’ Is it possible that it can be that I prophesied my own journey? I never knew what it is. Not until we are prompted to start our second hub somewhere.

 

Nine locations, cities and towns, in my province alone (there are places outside Cebu also although not directly connected here) that ‘making disciples’ has had an impact. This is the result of ‘sending out’ disciples to make disciples. Making disciples is our ‘first foot.’ We step in to an area where there is no ‘making disciples’ happen yet. I don’t care if there are ‘churches’ around. If those churches didn’t make disciples then we have to step in and do it. We don’t go into churches and train Christians ‘already’ on how to make disciples, like T4T model, if I do then I would have some qualifications for them to follow, but that’s another topic to discuss.

 

We are looking for Luke 10 people, “finding a house of peace.” If we cannot find one, (we had some experiences too that we haven’t found even one) then we go to other places. But if we did then that family becomes our ‘temporary’ hub. We don’t go ‘from house to house’ obeying what Jesus said. But we ‘stay in that house’ and model the life of the kingdom. From that family, when they themselves make disciples to their own family members or clan and friends, as it normally happens here, then we start considering setting up a ‘permanent’ apostolic hub with that family. Starting an apostolic hub then is our “second foot.”

 

It is when ‘making disciples’ happen in the area that we go in and saturate it with the gospel. That means, we don’t do something on our own initiation and ask God to cooperate with us by asking His blessing. Instead, we were ‘prompted’ first by the spirit to go and make disciples and when we see God is opening doors, that is He is pouring out His spirit in that area that’s when we go and pour out ourselves also with Him. We follow where God is already blessing.

 

An apostolic hub is like living the life of the early church in Acts 2:42-47. Where disciples lived next door to each other, shared life and things together, no buying and no selling, “no one is poor among them because they own everything,” etc. They have four things among them:

  1. Orphans and widows, the fatherless and those who needed care. The early church took care of their widows and took in orphans. This is what true religion is (James 1:27). Not building orphanages but providing families for the fatherless. A family for an orphan is actually better than orphanages for God is not an orphanage director or a supporter of it. He Himself is a helper and a father to the fatherless. (Psalm 10:14; 68:5) It’s easy to support an orphanage, you just have to send your money and you’re done with your guilt. But accepting an orphan and treats him or her like your own child is totally a different story to tell to the world. Families were God’s design also to change our orphan ‘mentality’ among Christians who has many pastors but lack fathering. Without ‘parents in the Lord’ creates orphanage mentality!

  2. Apostolic dad and prophetic mom – serves as ‘parents in the Lord’ fathering and mothering their next generation. If we, the older generations will father/mother our next generation then we would not have spiritual orphans roaming around from church to church today. I believe that the very reason why Christians transfer churches they want without a need to change their lives is not because they’re looking for ‘good sermonizing pastors’ but actually looking people who can father and mother them. People who will not treat them as ‘projects’ to raise funds but ‘people’ to be loved and cared for. A place like a hub provides “hundreds of mothers, brothers, and sisters,” this is exactly how Jesus defines church!

  3. Kingdom projects – they create their own economics. They are secured by the way they live: seek first the kingdom of God and ‘all these things shall be added unto you. Their security is found in their King, Jesus and in the ecclesia. We lived because we do His work and He provides everything that we need. We seek His reign and obey His commandments. Unlike, in the world: we work, eat and merry, pay taxes, burn, and die. So, because God provides us of our need by living the life of His kingdom, our businesses/projects in the hub then helps the 1 & 2 above and then the 4th which is the,

  4. Poor ‘outside’ of them. Helping the poor that is ‘outside’ of them because there is no poor ‘inside’ with them. Unbelieving poor comes in second on the list when it comes to doing charity work. First priority of our helps is the ‘poor among us.’ Jesus said that ‘the poor will always be with you’ and that ‘he who does these (feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit those who are in prison) to the least of My ‘brethren’ you did it unto Me.” Thus, we don’t ‘support’ a brother, we ‘help’ a brother because it’s a family. If all money of Christians today would be use to help the poor ‘among us’ I believe we would literally have a ‘real prosperity gospel’ message that can say to the world, “We are the light of the world, a city that is set on a hill that cannot be hidden. Look, how we love one another!”

     

    An apostolic hub is basically a ‘spirit,’ not a location or else anybody who has resources can do it. It a spirit where ‘assembling,’ ‘killing’ and ‘casting’ happens. They ‘assemble’ as a family. They just don’t simply gather to do meetings, any group of people can do that, even a ‘house church’ group. Little pieces of puzzle can be gathered but not assembled. A family-based church live Jesus-Life-Together, so their meetings is just the by-product of it. Families don’t do meetings, they just meet a lot.

     

    Killing” simply means ‘discipling.’ Because we live ‘from house to house’ like one family, means we can ‘show’ to new believers ‘how to live’ and not just ‘teaching them about God.’ Lives change because we do things together ‘as we sit, walk, and as we lay down’ (Duet 6:4-6). Killing means, denying, dying to self. Means, I’m not looking after my need but to your need. Same of you to me. The selfish life that we know has come to an end. Behold, God gives us new Life and that Life is not meant to be live in isolation but with other members of the body accepting and caring one another.

     

    Casting” means ‘sending’ disciples to the field. “Pray to the Lord of the harvest that He will ‘cast’ (original Greek word) workers in to His field. “Go out and make disciples” with a ‘little’ training but for Jesus it is enough because you have the Holy Spirit in you. The promise of Jesus to be with us “at the very end of the age” was given to those who “go” and not those who “stay.” In reality here when it comes to ‘casting’ out disciples in the field means that they have reach generations upon generations on their own without a need of you and me. It happens, that’s why when starting an apostolic hub we are only following where God is already blessing and join with Him there.

     

    So, how to start an apostolic hub? Basically you can’t. No one can. That’s actually asking the wrong question and basically you’ll get the wrong answer. The right question is “how to start a making disciples movement in your area?” If you can do this then you’re not far from starting one!

 

 

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14 responses

20 06 2014
Michael Cox

Excellent word Molong. This is exactly hopw JesusLifeTogether has helped me. Over a year ago, you had them send me a box of books. Since then, they have sent my sister a box, and another box for me to distribute.
A rock in the road for me is that we are in a large metropolitan city and people that we are discipling are spread all over. This makes it difficult to share life together on a daily basis. One thing we have done is that 3 of us pray together each day over the phone. I setup a conference line, so that keeps us somewhat connected. Any thoughts or ideas, please share with me.
Michael

20 06 2014
molongnacua

Hi Mike, what a Life we have in Jesus. Minutes ago as before I read your comment I read one of their books “children” and it literally explains there what is “seeking the kingdom first mean?” It says to change our priorities to be be with the saints daily! Change location, job, or a college school. What else is the “right” thing to do except this? And the writer continues saying that “Jesus violated all of the rules of social and religious order and establishment, didn’t He? And He turned out okay, in Father’s estimate.”
We have had some saints/disciples here who were also quite busy with their works etc that we hardly see each other also on a daily basis. They’re mostly live in the cities as well. And yes, because we’re not just satisfied with them “attending” weekly religious stuff “regularly” but we want them to have “daily” (Heb.3:12-14) living Jesus life with the saints, our responsibility is to educate them, encourage them to change the way they think. As much as we can we are not doing merely “bible studies” about it but pushing them to their limits, ask for commitments and loyalty to Jesus and one another to do their best about this matter. Don’t settle for anything less!
As for here doing life together with each other daily, we’re not an army, only a band of brothers and sisters, a family actually, who’s seeking His kingdom (people who live the kingdom life) first.
So, seek out those people who has the King’s rule in their lives because that’s where His kingdom rest. Then talk about changing priorities. What needs to be change between each other. I always say that imagine if Paul is living next city I would pack up and find a house next to him! Now, that is seeking first His kingdom!

20 06 2014
Michael Cox

Thank you. This exhortation confirmed an incident that happened this evening when the saints gathered here at my house. Basically, that was my responsde to a brother. Where is your heart? Either one is committed to the Head and the BODY, or there is no commitment. You can’t love the Head and neglect the Body.
Your friend because of Jesus,
michaWEL

28 09 2014
Ghislain

Hi Molong, i have 2 questions:

1) Concerning Kingdom projetcs:
If there is a “non christian” group in your city already serving the city would you recommand a group of believers to join them to serve while making kingdom impact and disciples? Can this verse be applied to a situation like this? 2 Corinthians 6:14 “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?”

2) What is the Title of this book that explain what “seeking the Kingdom first” means? you quote it by saying: ” I read one of their books “children” and it literally explains there what is “seeking the kingdom first mean?”

28 09 2014
molongnacua

Your first question the answer is NO. Kingdom projects is totally different than normal projects. Kingdom projects has kingdom purposes. It’s based on kingdom values. Example, first priority for their help is believers, unbelievers only secondary, not priority. Kingdom projects sees God’s need to be meet in the community, not just simply meetings needs. If we’re just simply meeting needs for the sake of it then we will waste Gods resources. We should know God’s ways in dealing with His resources.

Why join their group when you can start one? If you know how.

Second answer to your question. It’s the book children by mike peters. Unfortunately their books are not for sale. Fortunately they’re giving it free. So what’s your address? I may send you other copies of his books.

29 09 2014
bliever

hello Molong,

thx for your answer…I agree with you…we don’t just meet needs, but we need to know and meet God’s need. I don’t know how to start one, but i will want to know how to…i tought you just have to meet with 2 or 3 believers and start asking, listening and meeting needs?

I have 2 other question concerning widows (sorry for the many Questions): 1) i am camerounian (africa) living and working in germany. Now should seek to know all widows and orphans i have in my earthly extended family (cousins, aunts, uncles) who live in cameroun and start meeting their needs? Is that the real Meaning of 1 Timothée 5:16?
2) In my last holiday in cameroon i came across an orphenage. I was very touch by their way of living 50 children in a 3-bedroom House. I know the director of this orphenage who is a believing Christian and very committed to her work there. I started sending money, calling them and praying for them…They even have a project of Building a bigger place for the kids… now by reading your Blog i was challenged with your though on “Orphenage” vs “Patenting”. what will be your advise here?

this is my Email adress for the Book: ghistn@hotmail.com …If you need my postal adress please Email-me and i will send it to you.

30 09 2014
molongnacua

At least you started telling me where you and what you are but not your name. Guess will just call you what? 😉

You have a seeking heart and I seek people like that because the kingdom of God belongs to such people who knows how to ask the right questions. “Seek ye first the kingdom of God…” Is our first kingdom mandate as kingdom people. It means that we seek those people who live the kingdom life, who obey their King because they recognize Him as One!

Anyway, seeking Gods ways and God’s needs (means what kind of need God wants us to meet?) can work with a group of friends and brothers like you and me or alone. I challenge disciples here to learn how to meet a need. Find ways, ask Father, He will surely show you. There are needs that only need one person to meet. Some needs will need a couple of us sharing our resources. First things first is, God will give the situation and the situation itself will teach you how to do it. He will give you problems to solve, one by one, little by little. Our motto here is: you’ve got problems? Give me some! He who can be trusted in little can be trusted in much. He will give you little problems first then it becomes bigger and bigger and you grow. So either you and others with you can do something together. Depends on a need.

Now about helping our earthly family. Filipinos here who work abroad do the same also. We help our earthly families. But then if they’re not disciples of Jesus what’s the difference between us and them? We should know how the bible deals with when it comes to this situations.

First, the early church have set their priority when it comes to helping. Two different kinds of poor: 1 is the needy saints. Means, they are disciples of Jesus who are poor. 2 is unbelieving poor. When it comes to meetings needs between this two, who gets the help first? The needy saints. Jesus says, “I’m hungry, naked, in prison, thirsty and he who does this to the least of my brethren you did it unto Me.” Notice the word “brethren” not unbelieving people. The poor ‘among us’ should get help first then if we have extras then the unbelieving poor can have it. “The poor will always be with you.” Jesus says. Huh!

We should help those ‘disciples’ that have become ‘family’ to us. Notice my two quotations: disciples and family. There are Christians who are not disciples. Christians goes to church, disciples follows Christ. Big difference. Second is family. Two or more Christians who meet does not become a church just because they’re all Christians and meet every week or so. Church is family. Have they become family to each other? See, church is not a building, it is a people. Yet it is not only a people but their relationships. Many churches have people yet lack relationships. Church is family, nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. Apart from this, it’s an organization, not an organism.

If you take care of 12-15 people then it’s a family. If more than that then it’s an adoption home. An orphanage is not a family. Orphanages is a ‘Christian’ attempt not to get too much involvement of yourself. Send your money and you’re done with your guilt. Also many orphanages today who functions like a church- they raised funds to build massive buildings like one that you’re supporting. What’s the difference between a church and an orphanage? Simple, it’s just easier to raise funds for the children than church members.
The ideal Kings way is providing families for the fatherless. Adoption as He adopted us.

Someone ask me what kind of Christians are we helping? It’s those disciples only, specially those that we made and become family. Those needy saints who are merely ‘Christians’ but they have no relationship to us we don’t consider them family. The focus here is relationships because that’s what church is all about. Here, we have had enough needy disciples that needs help. I just been to the mountain today in our other apostolic hubs and meet needs there.

If we help widows then it should be disciples and more than 60yrs old. Now I’m not saying that we don’t help those whom a part of our earthly families. We will of course, and get them become disciples! We do help unbelieving widows but then we make them disciples! Not a rule, but only if we’re lead. If one of us here dream of it in the night. Means, we hear His voice and obey.

My advice as you ask for it is why not help someone or a family who took care of orphans and widows? Someone who you know and trust. Either you start one or help one. Adopt one or help those who adopt one. See, in plain truth, what I ask of you is help father those who father fatherless kids and who took care of widows.

Sending your money to build orphanages is like sending your money to start church buildings. What a waste. Many Christians knows Gods heart and enjoy living Gods blessings but too ignorant of Gods ways. He has ways to fulfill His dreams for us. We work with Him and cooperate not the other way around.

You’re in Germany, give me your full mailing address with your name and I will send you a box of books of whom saints have written. No authors, not for sale, it’s a gift to a saint like you!

Glad we connect. Can’t believe my blog has reach Germany! How did you find me?

1 10 2014
Ghislain

thank you molong for your detailled answers…i need to read this many times…I understand a little bit more how christian charity work…My name is Ghislain. I found you by seeking in google with keywords such as: “discipleship in organic movements” or “how to make disciple”, “simple church etc…”… I wrote you and Email with my Full contact adress. Thanks for sharing this life stories and teaching at the sametime what the Kingdom of God is all about.

1 10 2014
molongnacua

Ghislain, think your email didn’t went through. I got other emails but not yours with your address. Here’s my email: molong.nacua@gmail.com

18 11 2014
murdock conley

good stuff brother – your comment of Christians go to church, disciples follow Christ. Describes the American Church – more Christians than disciples – keep up the good work the work the Lord has put your hand to -Colossians 3:16,17

3 12 2014
molongnacua

Hi Murdock. Thanks for your comment. Where are you at? What do you do?

17 12 2014
murdock conley

Hello Molong, we are in the U.S the state of Virginia – we have a few different fellowships one with some ex-inmates (some of which have been convicted as sex offenders) some at the local nursing homes – and some that are still incarcerated. Trying to be that example that Jesus taught and manifest – and hoping some will walk with Him in His fullness as they continue on the path that has been set for them – We are resting in peace- after that we do our part in teaching others what Jesus has taught us knowing God can and will continue making His Kingdom known thru those lives whom He calls and chooses.

17 12 2014
molongnacua

Hi murdock. Thanks for sharing your stories of what you do. Good to know there are folks out there who does has harm to the kingdom of darkness. Heres my email, molong.nacua@gmail.com. Hoping to correspond sometime.

1 02 2015
molongnacua

Hello Murdock, can we correspond through email? molong.nacua@gmail.com

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