Making disciples: answering questions 3 

11 07 2017

I want to go on first on some important points of making disciples. As I said, how quick and slow you are in making a person into a disciple depends on your understanding of making disciples. Like one thinks is a long process, even a lifetime because he is thinking ‘discipleship classes’ of which it can go on and on even if you transfer to another church you will enrolled again because the church wants you too or else for them you are not a discipled Christian.

But making disciples is not a ‘lifetime of discipleship’ but it is a ‘lifetime of relationship.’ Means that the ‘teaching to obey all that I commanded you’ is incorporated mix in to the way we live together as a disciple every day. The early church ‘met daily’ because they live ‘from house to house.’ Thus, to make sense, they positioned themselves as a body, as close as they can to obey those commands. Another false understanding of making disciples the person has to go through this short term classes or teaching before you baptize him.

You know ‘the four stages of growth’ that includes the theology of baptism. Another false idea is to make sure that the person bears some ‘fruits of repentance’ first before baptizing him. Fruits of repentance, means that he has to show some good works first as a result of his repentance. These two false ideas came from the lack of understanding of the status of the person. See! Unbelievers are dead because of their sin. Spiritually dead person cannot understand spiritual things. How can we expect him to learn from those theologies of baptism? How can he show forth good works when he is dead? No wonder in Hebrews 6 we are to repent from ‘dead works’ simply because the person who does them is dead

When a person dies in my country his blood will be sucked out. Then he is injected with formalin chemicals to preserve your body for a couple of days. I call these false ideas ‘spiritual formalin.’ There is only one thing that you can do to a dead person: bury them! These false ideas only delayed their burial. No wonder we have another holy day called ‘baptism day.’

When I started teaching making disciples to my small gang of young people I took them to a cemetery for two days, at night. You know how our cemetery looks like. Like a squatters area pack of cemented coffins on top of each other from the ground up. Broken caskets are normal and see some skull of a dead body. And worst still there are no lights at night time!

Before we all went, I shared about ‘how to raise the dead’ and shared stories after stories of people raising the dead. You know how young people, men and women, are easier to make them excited. Then we head straight to the cemetery and gave them small instructions like ‘there are bad spirits around here so you better rebuke them first. There are spirits of death here. It’s stingy.

Rebuke them in Jesus name. Shout out! Get rid of that fear in you if you afraid.” And positioned them one by one in front of pantheons with a dead person’s name on it. I each place them from a distance yet able to hear each other’s voices as they all started to preach to the dead to be raised from the dead. About 20 young people. And the next day they shared their experience and their friends joined with them on the second day. Has any dead raised from the dead on those two nights? Nope! But surely the way they see an unbeliever changed. I did some test; I told some of them if they got something. “See those people from the streets sitting and walking? Go preach the gospel to them.” They went and did without hesitation. If you are afraid to preach to the dead in the cemetery then you will be afraid to preach to those who are alive yet ‘dead in the spirit’ out there, see unbelievers as dead!
In my previous article Answering questions 2, I shared about how to start making a person in to a disciple. (Take note that the person is your friend who believes in you and trusts you.) Is to say your intention: “I will make you a disciple.” Because Jesus, said to ‘go and make disciples.’ So I want to share now what to say after that, or how to share the gospel of the kingdom. Please, I am not saying that you do exactly what we do and how we do it. I am just sharing our experiences and principles we found to make it effective here and as clear as 1-2-3.

By any means, tell the person your intention why you want to talk to him. You might be talking already about a lot of godly things and still he would wonder, “Ah, what are you trying to make me into?” Then as you talk, bring him into a decision to become a disciple. Means, you will be the one to initiate topics to talk about. Don’t let him lead you to what he wants. He is spiritually dead you know. And if he really wants to be the one to lead you into a debate of things then ask him “do you really want to know the truth? If so then listen to me. If not then sorry, I won’t answer your questions for two reasons: one is you will not understand my answer, why? Second reason, you are dead in your spirit. No wonder you kept on asking these questions all over again to any religions.” Again, spiritually dead person cannot understand spiritual things.”

Just as you tell him your intention, a person who is ready to enter the kingdom normally knows how to ask the right questions. “What is that? What do you mean you want to make me into a disciple?” (This is based on our experience, 100 percent of those who ask back this question would normally want to become a disciple of Jesus.) Then you continue “Jesus has saved you already. 2,000 years ago He did save you right there on that cross. Because He loves you, nothing you can do can make God love you more. Nothing! You can do that can make God love you less. He loves you.” The point here is that you start your gospel with God’s love, not with ‘human sin.’ “Oh, you must repent or else God sends you to hell.” That’s typical evangelism you’ve heard in churches

“God so loved the world.” “While we were yet sinners He died for us.” “He who believes shall be saved.” The work is done! Let him know. “Do you know this? You ask him. If not then let him know. Explain the Good News. Take your time.

Share only what is essential for him to know to believe. He may be dead, but remember this that Jesus would then start drawing him to the His Father, he will be given God’s kindness for him to repent – to turn his ways back to God. “It’s His kindness that leads us to repentance.” Just a little bit of grace for him to understand God’s love. Not much. People keeps doing debate, able to talk about the truth but never come to repentance. Because they don’t understand it all. Small grace only for repentance, not big.

“Now that you know, do you believe?” If he believes you can continue making him into a disciple. If not, do your best job to explain the truth. And if he believes then you can assure him “Now you are saved. Today. Right now.”

Are you saved because you repent of your sin or because Christ died for you? Are you saved because you confess your sin of because Christ died for you? My friend, many religions repent of their sins without the knowledge of the Son of God, are they saved?

Let him get it that this is all God’s doing. Nothing he can do, it is done 2,000 years ago. What can you do? Unless he believe that he is saved and that there is nothing he can do to save himself do not continue making him into a disciple of Jesus. If he believes then continue. “Now that you believe, what is your response?”

Most spiritually dead people think they know something. No! They do not know anything at all. His answer basically based on experience is “No. I do not know what is my response.”

You can rephrase the question: “Now that you believe He died for your sin, what will you do with your sin?” Still he doesn’t know how to answer this question. Answer is, “leave your sin. Stop sinning.”

We do not use the word ‘repentance’ when we do the actual making of a disciple. That’s a vague religious term that normally unbelievers would have a hard time understanding it. This word only makes making disciples complicated. Slow. Whenever Jesus does the actual making He uses simplified words: “sin no more.” Get it? For a nonbeliever that can easily be understood.

I did say “What is your response” right? Repentance and baptism is only a response to what has been done already, not something that you do to get saved. The NT responses when touch by God’s doing is “what must I do to be saved?” Not “what must I do to get saved.”

One is saying “Now that he saved me 2,000 years ago, what should I do to make that real in me today?” The later says, “I want to be save, what should I do?” Sorry, you cannot save yourself dear.

The typical evangelism is exactly driving in this direction, “you must repent so that you will be saved.” Don’t wonder why we don’t do evangelism, we only make disciples.

So ask, “now that you believe what is your response to what He has done for you? Now that He died for your sin, what will you do with your sin?”

Answer: sin no more.

You don’t have to go through 123 sins one by one. All he needs to is decide to stop sinning. Like in any marriage vows, the moment you say yes you can’t buy your own TV. Your single life has ended. Your ‘new’ married life has begun. You got a new relationship now. “And this is eternal life that you may know Jesus.” John 17:3.

This is the leading questions from Believing to Repentance. Now the leading questions to Repentance to Baptism is “now, that you want to leave your sin, what will we do with you sin?” Take note I said “what will WE do” we do it together. Dead people can’t bury themselves. That’s why we are commanded to baptize them.

Many Christians can lead the person to Repentance. The known so-called called “sinner’s prayer” has become the national Christian poem in Christianism. But not a lot can directly baptize the person the moment he realizes his sin has killed him too. “Sinners prayer” was never the sign that a person is saved, baptism is!

Ask the right question when it comes to leading the person for his burial. “What will we do with your sin that now you want to stop it?”.

Still the normal unbeliever guy couldn’t answer that question. Then you explain. “Jesus was killed because of your sin, you also was killed.” I use the word “kill” to point some seriousness of his sin. Jesus died because of your sin. You also died. “The wages of sin is death.” You sin, you died. You are dead.

“You believe? What will we do with dead people?” You know what! this is the only question that a spiritually dead person knows how to answer. Yes ‘spiritually’ dead still as he was not buried at this time.

The only thing that you can do to a dead person is bury him. I don’t negotiate with dead people. The moment he realizes he is dead, bury him quick or else he be stingy soon

His life has come to an end. He has been given a new life after we bury his old life. It’s funny how we do this in evangelism, after the crowd does the ‘sinner’s prayer’ the evangelist says “now receive the new life!” Really, how can one receive the new life without burying the old?

Scary teaching.

 

The old life that’s the result of sin does not know how to follow Christ, let alone enter the kingdom!

 

It is during this part that the gospel of the kingdom is explained: to enter the kingdom is by baptism. To remain in the kingdom is by obedience. To follow Jesus is to enter into the kingdom of God of which Jesus is the king. The kingdom is like a country, it is the country of God. Just like any country you want to be a part of is you need to migrate. Immigration. Making disciples is the immigration part.

Step 1. Explain the kingdom before baptism: it has a king, a country, has laws, and a border. At the end, it is important that the person must realize or distinguish either he is ‘out’ or ‘in’ the kingdom. He would normally realize he is out (I suspect most Christian’s too!) and if he is out, then he must want to become a part of it. “I want the kingdom. I want to align myself to the King and His commands.” That’s when you baptize him because he is ready. He understood that he is entering into a new territory. A New way of life, the kingdom life. He is entering into the kingdom of God, not Christianity.

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