Making disciples: answering questions 3 

11 07 2017

I want to go on first on some important points of making disciples. As I said, how quick and slow you are in making a person into a disciple depends on your understanding of making disciples. Like one thinks is a long process, even a lifetime because he is thinking ‘discipleship classes’ of which it can go on and on even if you transfer to another church you will enrolled again because the church wants you too or else for them you are not a discipled Christian.

But making disciples is not a ‘lifetime of discipleship’ but it is a ‘lifetime of relationship.’ Means that the ‘teaching to obey all that I commanded you’ is incorporated mix in to the way we live together as a disciple every day. The early church ‘met daily’ because they live ‘from house to house.’ Thus, to make sense, they positioned themselves as a body, as close as they can to obey those commands. Another false understanding of making disciples the person has to go through this short term classes or teaching before you baptize him.

You know ‘the four stages of growth’ that includes the theology of baptism. Another false idea is to make sure that the person bears some ‘fruits of repentance’ first before baptizing him. Fruits of repentance, means that he has to show some good works first as a result of his repentance. These two false ideas came from the lack of understanding of the status of the person. See! Unbelievers are dead because of their sin. Spiritually dead person cannot understand spiritual things. How can we expect him to learn from those theologies of baptism? How can he show forth good works when he is dead? No wonder in Hebrews 6 we are to repent from ‘dead works’ simply because the person who does them is dead

When a person dies in my country his blood will be sucked out. Then he is injected with formalin chemicals to preserve your body for a couple of days. I call these false ideas ‘spiritual formalin.’ There is only one thing that you can do to a dead person: bury them! These false ideas only delayed their burial. No wonder we have another holy day called ‘baptism day.’

When I started teaching making disciples to my small gang of young people I took them to a cemetery for two days, at night. You know how our cemetery looks like. Like a squatters area pack of cemented coffins on top of each other from the ground up. Broken caskets are normal and see some skull of a dead body. And worst still there are no lights at night time!

Before we all went, I shared about ‘how to raise the dead’ and shared stories after stories of people raising the dead. You know how young people, men and women, are easier to make them excited. Then we head straight to the cemetery and gave them small instructions like ‘there are bad spirits around here so you better rebuke them first. There are spirits of death here. It’s stingy.

Rebuke them in Jesus name. Shout out! Get rid of that fear in you if you afraid.” And positioned them one by one in front of pantheons with a dead person’s name on it. I each place them from a distance yet able to hear each other’s voices as they all started to preach to the dead to be raised from the dead. About 20 young people. And the next day they shared their experience and their friends joined with them on the second day. Has any dead raised from the dead on those two nights? Nope! But surely the way they see an unbeliever changed. I did some test; I told some of them if they got something. “See those people from the streets sitting and walking? Go preach the gospel to them.” They went and did without hesitation. If you are afraid to preach to the dead in the cemetery then you will be afraid to preach to those who are alive yet ‘dead in the spirit’ out there, see unbelievers as dead!
In my previous article Answering questions 2, I shared about how to start making a person in to a disciple. (Take note that the person is your friend who believes in you and trusts you.) Is to say your intention: “I will make you a disciple.” Because Jesus, said to ‘go and make disciples.’ So I want to share now what to say after that, or how to share the gospel of the kingdom. Please, I am not saying that you do exactly what we do and how we do it. I am just sharing our experiences and principles we found to make it effective here and as clear as 1-2-3.

By any means, tell the person your intention why you want to talk to him. You might be talking already about a lot of godly things and still he would wonder, “Ah, what are you trying to make me into?” Then as you talk, bring him into a decision to become a disciple. Means, you will be the one to initiate topics to talk about. Don’t let him lead you to what he wants. He is spiritually dead you know. And if he really wants to be the one to lead you into a debate of things then ask him “do you really want to know the truth? If so then listen to me. If not then sorry, I won’t answer your questions for two reasons: one is you will not understand my answer, why? Second reason, you are dead in your spirit. No wonder you kept on asking these questions all over again to any religions.” Again, spiritually dead person cannot understand spiritual things.”

Just as you tell him your intention, a person who is ready to enter the kingdom normally knows how to ask the right questions. “What is that? What do you mean you want to make me into a disciple?” (This is based on our experience, 100 percent of those who ask back this question would normally want to become a disciple of Jesus.) Then you continue “Jesus has saved you already. 2,000 years ago He did save you right there on that cross. Because He loves you, nothing you can do can make God love you more. Nothing! You can do that can make God love you less. He loves you.” The point here is that you start your gospel with God’s love, not with ‘human sin.’ “Oh, you must repent or else God sends you to hell.” That’s typical evangelism you’ve heard in churches

“God so loved the world.” “While we were yet sinners He died for us.” “He who believes shall be saved.” The work is done! Let him know. “Do you know this? You ask him. If not then let him know. Explain the Good News. Take your time.

Share only what is essential for him to know to believe. He may be dead, but remember this that Jesus would then start drawing him to the His Father, he will be given God’s kindness for him to repent – to turn his ways back to God. “It’s His kindness that leads us to repentance.” Just a little bit of grace for him to understand God’s love. Not much. People keeps doing debate, able to talk about the truth but never come to repentance. Because they don’t understand it all. Small grace only for repentance, not big.

“Now that you know, do you believe?” If he believes you can continue making him into a disciple. If not, do your best job to explain the truth. And if he believes then you can assure him “Now you are saved. Today. Right now.”

Are you saved because you repent of your sin or because Christ died for you? Are you saved because you confess your sin of because Christ died for you? My friend, many religions repent of their sins without the knowledge of the Son of God, are they saved?

Let him get it that this is all God’s doing. Nothing he can do, it is done 2,000 years ago. What can you do? Unless he believe that he is saved and that there is nothing he can do to save himself do not continue making him into a disciple of Jesus. If he believes then continue. “Now that you believe, what is your response?”

Most spiritually dead people think they know something. No! They do not know anything at all. His answer basically based on experience is “No. I do not know what is my response.”

You can rephrase the question: “Now that you believe He died for your sin, what will you do with your sin?” Still he doesn’t know how to answer this question. Answer is, “leave your sin. Stop sinning.”

We do not use the word ‘repentance’ when we do the actual making of a disciple. That’s a vague religious term that normally unbelievers would have a hard time understanding it. This word only makes making disciples complicated. Slow. Whenever Jesus does the actual making He uses simplified words: “sin no more.” Get it? For a nonbeliever that can easily be understood.

I did say “What is your response” right? Repentance and baptism is only a response to what has been done already, not something that you do to get saved. The NT responses when touch by God’s doing is “what must I do to be saved?” Not “what must I do to get saved.”

One is saying “Now that he saved me 2,000 years ago, what should I do to make that real in me today?” The later says, “I want to be save, what should I do?” Sorry, you cannot save yourself dear.

The typical evangelism is exactly driving in this direction, “you must repent so that you will be saved.” Don’t wonder why we don’t do evangelism, we only make disciples.

So ask, “now that you believe what is your response to what He has done for you? Now that He died for your sin, what will you do with your sin?”

Answer: sin no more.

You don’t have to go through 123 sins one by one. All he needs to is decide to stop sinning. Like in any marriage vows, the moment you say yes you can’t buy your own TV. Your single life has ended. Your ‘new’ married life has begun. You got a new relationship now. “And this is eternal life that you may know Jesus.” John 17:3.

This is the leading questions from Believing to Repentance. Now the leading questions to Repentance to Baptism is “now, that you want to leave your sin, what will we do with you sin?” Take note I said “what will WE do” we do it together. Dead people can’t bury themselves. That’s why we are commanded to baptize them.

Many Christians can lead the person to Repentance. The known so-called called “sinner’s prayer” has become the national Christian poem in Christianism. But not a lot can directly baptize the person the moment he realizes his sin has killed him too. “Sinners prayer” was never the sign that a person is saved, baptism is!

Ask the right question when it comes to leading the person for his burial. “What will we do with your sin that now you want to stop it?”.

Still the normal unbeliever guy couldn’t answer that question. Then you explain. “Jesus was killed because of your sin, you also was killed.” I use the word “kill” to point some seriousness of his sin. Jesus died because of your sin. You also died. “The wages of sin is death.” You sin, you died. You are dead.

“You believe? What will we do with dead people?” You know what! this is the only question that a spiritually dead person knows how to answer. Yes ‘spiritually’ dead still as he was not buried at this time.

The only thing that you can do to a dead person is bury him. I don’t negotiate with dead people. The moment he realizes he is dead, bury him quick or else he be stingy soon

His life has come to an end. He has been given a new life after we bury his old life. It’s funny how we do this in evangelism, after the crowd does the ‘sinner’s prayer’ the evangelist says “now receive the new life!” Really, how can one receive the new life without burying the old?

Scary teaching.


The old life that’s the result of sin does not know how to follow Christ, let alone enter the kingdom!


It is during this part that the gospel of the kingdom is explained: to enter the kingdom is by baptism. To remain in the kingdom is by obedience. To follow Jesus is to enter into the kingdom of God of which Jesus is the king. The kingdom is like a country, it is the country of God. Just like any country you want to be a part of is you need to migrate. Immigration. Making disciples is the immigration part.

Step 1. Explain the kingdom before baptism: it has a king, a country, has laws, and a border. At the end, it is important that the person must realize or distinguish either he is ‘out’ or ‘in’ the kingdom. He would normally realize he is out (I suspect most Christian’s too!) and if he is out, then he must want to become a part of it. “I want the kingdom. I want to align myself to the King and His commands.” That’s when you baptize him because he is ready. He understood that he is entering into a new territory. A New way of life, the kingdom life. He is entering into the kingdom of God, not Christianity.


Making disciples: Answering questions 2

9 07 2017

How we make disciples 2 – Baptism
A disciple is one who decided to follow Christ and be a part of His kingdom. How to make him decide depends on how we understand making disciples.
How to make him decide depends on how we understand making disciples. Jesus has the quickest way of making someone a disciple. He said “follow Me” and the person starts following Him.
Be a disciple first, then your life starts changing. Be inside the kingdom first then the cleaning starts. If you’re outside His kingdom then there is no power for him to help him change. We are powerless outside the kingdom.
In traditional evangelism we clean him first: you’re a sinner and needs to repent and do the evangelistic allegiance called ‘sinners prayer.’ Then we welcome him in the four corners of our churches.
In making disciples, we want them to become a part of the kingdom after explaining the ‘gospel of the kingdom’ to him. And he is ‘in’ that’s when we start cleaning him. Like in any marriage, the moment you say “I do” is the moment your life starts changing. You cannot buy things even for yourself, a joint agreement is signed to agree to buy a house or a TV set or a car.
If the making of a disciple is quick, if the making of a disciple is to make him decide to enter into the kingdom it means there is a point for you to know how to start and how does it end. How to make a person into a disciple of Jesus has a start and an end. But how?
If Jesus says “go and make disciples” it means our intention to the person is to make him into a disciple. Right? So we say it, “I will make you a disciple.” Or however you say your intention is to let him know what you want him to be. Let me remind you that he is your friend. A lot of us are afraid to say this to a person because we do not know if we are accepted or not. But if you make disciples of your friends who believe in you and trust you because he saw the way you live the righteous way, not the religious way, what are you afraid of?
But if you tell him our intention, that’s when the start to make him into a disciple. From then on you explain the ‘gospel of the kingdom’. What does it take to make him want to become a part of it. Next, I would go into detail on what is the gospel of the kingdom. Because there is a gospel of the church of which it says “come and will clean you, heal you and give you what you want to hear, what you want so sing and what group you want to be a part of.” The kingdom is not Christianity and Christianity is not the kingdom. One is too risky, the other one is too lousy.
Anyway, how does the making of a person into a disciple end? With Baptism! After he decides to follow Christ and be a part of His kingdom, dunk him underwater for 5 minutes to make sure he is saved! Nah…
So if one says “I know how to make disciples” means he knows what to say and do. He knows how to start making one and end it. See, many of us like to talk and talk about God, bible, church, and yes kingdom to the person, yet we do not know how to bring him into a decision to follow Christ.
Whenever someone shared to me that he shared to someone about God’s love etc, that he preached to someone, I normally ask, “so have you made him into a disciple yet?” They don’t normally get asked the question, so I paraphrase “did you baptize the person?” I normally get a silent answer.
Without baptism he’s only a half-baked believer. And if they answer “no, I didn’t baptize him” then I questioned him “why? What’s your problem?”

Make Disciples: Answering Questions 1

7 07 2017

How we make disciples as quick as six minutes? For those of you who read my blogs about actual making of a person into a disciple I owe you some explanations. Some of you may wonder ‘why’ we make disciples in 5-8 minutes. And yes, baptism in water is already included in those minutes.Some cultural differences is helpful for us to do this. Our country is about 93 percent Catholic, means most have already had an idea of Jesus saving the world through His death on the cross. God’s sacrificial act is spread out to most people and forgiveness is known to those who believe it.

Only we don’t trust trust Christ alone, but a lot. We trust saints and scapulars as charms etc. We thought Jesus is not enough.

OK we shall start on the simplicity of making disciples, yet I warned you, it is still complicated to some men who do not know how to ask the right questions. The kingdom has secrets and only those who are ‘seeking the kingdom first’ who can find it. Jesus says to “go to the world and make people disciples” (Matt. 28:19). Let’s tackle this first. Of course, I paraphrase Jesus words for you to make it simple.

First, He said to “go and make disciples,” He didn’t say to “go and disciple.” Our job is not to disciple the person but only to “make” him into a disciple. A disciple of who? Jesus,not mine nor yours. We are not Jesus you know.

The problem of the idea of discipleship today is many. One of it is we try to disciple the person as if he is “our” disciple. This makes ‘making disciples’ complicated. We thought it that way for many years and still make us confused. Let me make it simple to understand. When someone says to me, “Are you a Christian?” I will say, “I am not. But I am a disciple.” “Who discipled you?”

He may ask for politeness reason. “The Holy Spirit.” Is my answer. “Oh, I mean, who’s disciple are you?” He may ask for clarification. “I am Jesus disciple of course.” “Ah, I mean, yes you are Jesus disciple but what I mean there must be someone like…” “Oh, you mean a pastor? Jesus is my pastor, He is the Good Shepherd, right?” “Ah yes, but there must be someone who lead you to Christ and…” He may explain more. “Oh, you mean, who ‘made’ me into a disciple of Jesus. I see. It is ________ . He introduces me to Christ. He only ‘made’ me into a disciple of Jesus. I am not his disciple.”

 (John 4:1 – Therefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus MADE and baptized more disciples than John (though Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples). Note the “go and make” and “Jesus made”? How fast and quick?

The problem here is if Molong is the one who discipled you it means that you are a disciple of Molong, right? It just means that Molong is your discipler. No wonder every member of Pastor Molong looks exactly like him, preach like him, walks like him and even dressed up like him! And here is Paul’s blunt words against those ‘human disciplers’ – “Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.”

Acts 20:30. Are we drawing disciples to ourselves or to Christ? Making someone a disciple of Jesus is introducing him to Christ and Christ to him. How quick that is! If you as my friend, I would introduce you to my other friend who’s name is Jomie, would i start talking ‘about’ you to Jomie and taking ‘about’ Jomie to you?

Or both of you start talking?! Of course, both of you start talking. Hence the very problem of most discipleship is talking ‘about’ God to a group of people who are lock up in a room for a day to four months to four years. It is not “teaching them to obey what I have commanded you” but “teaching them to have knowledge ‘about’ the Son (instead ‘of’ the Son) and assist them in underlining their favorite scriptures in the Bible. Jesus didn’t say, “Come and when you knew me well enough you can become my disciples!” We so reduces Jesus into a discipleship ‘program.’ The command is only to “make” a person into a disciple of Jesus. Making disciples then should be simple, quick and fast to reach the growing population. If your way of making disciples is complicated then you must be the very reason why Jesus Christ did not come back yet. Here’s another complications that we do in making disciples. The command to make disciples to the world, not the church. To the lost, and not the found. To those who are blind, not to those who see. See, we lose the effectiveness of making disciples when we loose its focus: Lost


If the command is to the world and not the church, to the lost and not the found, to the blind and not those who can see then what are we doing having ‘discipleship classes’ to the church, saved and found? You cannot save the saved. Remember that the promise of Jesus is to be with us ‘to the end of the age’ it is to those who went out into the world. He went out to seek the 99 who are lost.


Be a friend of sinners, not saints. We each make disciples to people differently, that is why I normally write new stories, not new theories. Theories don’t change societies, stories do! But we have some underlying principles that we all follow. Here is one that stands.

Make friends like Jesus did. Knowing people’s names like Nathaniel or Zaccheus before He calls them is a proof that He makes friends with sinners and tax collectors. The problem with our churches is so protective to us and our families. “Do not be unequally yoke with unbelievers” the pastors sermon says. “He who is a friend of the world is an enmity with God” he added. Such messages forbid us to make disciples to the lost. No wonder we so lost contact with the world we live in. We only like to be with people who like us. And if they do not like us, we hit ‘unfriend’ or ‘block’ button in our facebook. And if no one like us, we hit ‘like’ ourselves and say “Look, I just hit ‘like’ in my own post! How wonderful!”

Church is a like a ‘mother’ that’s why we call it ‘mother-church.’ Like a hen gathered by her wings and at the same time being protected by the ‘outside’ world. What has become of us? Light is effective in the darkness! We lost the world and it makes us harder to make disciples. I have a theory, and it’s only a theory that God is not trying to protect the church from the world but He is trying to protect the world from the church.

Unless a person becomes your friend, do not make him into a disciple. You cannot save Albert unless you know Albert. Try to bring some families that you know to swim on a bigger pool in the city. With their children that you know mix with other children whom you do not know in the pool enjoying the water.

If you want to check for security reasons, would you look to children’s faces whom you do not know? Or those whom you know? You can only check and see if they are safe only those whom you recognize. Others whom you do not know, who knows they might be already underwater 10 minutes ago! You cannot save Albert unless you know Albert.

Stop winning souls, start making friends. We do not do evangelism, we only make disciples. We don’t do ‘hit and run’ evangelism style of reaching out to the lost of whom we do not even know their names. We build relationships first. One time a friend in Manila pick me up at the airport and we took a taxi to our destination and just when we sat down and the driver turns on the meter he starts preaching to the driver. “We don’t do that in Cebu.” I said. “What?” he wants to hear right. “I said, we don’t evangelism.” I clarified “unless he is a friend.” “Really?” he thought a bit. “Well, what if God wants you to make him into a disciple?” “Simple.” I replied. “I will make him my friend. Why, for how long can you make a friend to someone?” See, as God’s people we are supposed to be the most expert in this area of building relationships to non-believers. The problem, our problem is we do not have unbelieving friends anymore. We do not know how. We have lost the contact. We lost the world and the world lost us. A friend from another country contacted me saying he would come and said he made a new material on how to protect yourself from “prosperity gospel” preachers or message and he wants to teach the disciples here. “It won’t apply” I said, “the disciples are new and no traditional baggage.” And I added, “how funny we try to solve our own problems in churches instead of the world’s.” Now we are trying to protect ourselves from our own church doctrines. Scary.

So we don’t do evangelism, we make disciples. We don’t do discipleship, we only ‘make’ people disciples. Our job is to make disciples. The Holy Spirit’s job is to disciple the person. Jesus’ job is to build His Church. If we do Jesus’ job then it is obvious we didn’t do our job. And what do you call to a person who’s doing a job that it’s not his? Disturbance!

We are doing a job that it’s not ours to do: discipling the person and church planting. The church was planted already by Jesus, we only ‘add and multiplied’ to that number by making disciples. See Acts stories of making disciples like “and the disciples were added to the church daily.” What could be the job of the Holy Spirit living inside each of us? “And He will teach you all truth” John 16:13.

What can I teach? Don’t get me wrong, there is teaching, there is discipleship, but please not ‘our’ way but His way! See, we have done all our ways of serving God but somehow Christianity is still confused. People are still leaving their mother-church and seeking the Father’s heart for His Church. They stop asking “what church is good for me?” and start asking “What kind of church God want me to be?” We are so good at ‘going to church’ and ‘doing church’ but bad at ‘being church.’ How to ‘be’ the church? We do now know.

The whole idea of teaching our way and style is based on ego saying, “If I don’t teach you you will not grow.” How pathetic. Teaching is geared towards ‘obeying’ not ‘knowledge.’ You get what I mean? The subject on ‘what to do after baptism’ takes another article for me to write. But let us go on with my point: Until we realize that ‘God can do it without me’ we will never realize that we can do nothing without God. We will always have another idea of serving God our way to justify He uses us!

Stop! Sit! GO and make a person a disciple of Jesus. That’s your job and everything else follows.

Honestly, this whole new way (at least for us but is not in the Bible) of making disciples is learnt through obedience moment by moment. We didn’t get it by ‘figuring it out first’ and then do it. Well, that will not be called faith. Many of us try to figure it out first before obeying it. Sorry, we tried, it didn’t work and that’s not how ‘seeking the kingdom first’ works. ‘Seeking the kingdom first’ works in ways we cannot see, but we know it’s there. It is seeking His ways, means stop trying to figure it out. If it’s something new, do it. That’s what we did. The Lord’s word is a lamp unto my feet, not a 100-watt light. And a light unto my path, not the whole street. Means, we can do this one obedience at a time. Imagine this, if God could have given us a 10-year plan list on what to do and how to do it, He would not have given us His Holy Spirit. See, we are so dependent on our 10-year church discipleship program that we forgot to listen to the Spirit. If the church leaders told you what to do then you are not spirit-led but church-leaders-led. And church-leaders-led people do not know how to serve God ‘outside’ the four corners of their church building. Their loyalty stayed with their church and their pastors, not to Jesus, the King.

So, if our job is to make disciples to our friends, how to do that?

(Jesus went to the jailers house, to Cornelias, to the tax collector and others houses, He knew them all and He was making whole households into disciples)

Today’s story 

7 07 2017

A mom came today. While I do carpentry work making a toy house for my daughter, I let her peel some cranberry fruits to extract some seeds for planting and sell its seedling sprouts. Three things we talk I will highlight: 
1. Sharing to her that as disciples it’s not a question to help other disciples. We should. It should be our heart to extend help as we are told to ‘carry each other burdens so as to fulfill Christ’s law’ and many other admonishments. The question is ‘how to help.’ We should let them help us too. Example: we plant something not just to eat but also to sell. And then someone just came asking for money or things? We work with our hands creating a product and sell it for 2,000 peso and someone just came asking 2,000 peso without working for it? At least give them something to work like cleaning the backyard or get some cows poo and fertilizer or plant some seeds. Anything for him to contribute something to the community. Love may be unconditional but it is not irresponsibility. Teach the person how to live. Let him set a good example for others. Two kinds of disciples in the kingdom: one is the ‘well done, good and faithful servant. And the other one is the ‘lazy and wicked servant.’ 
2. She is handling a couple of simple groups. She said that her busiest times is sit down and think what to teach. She murmurs that she’s tired of feeding them and yet they still do not know how to feed themselves. That’s a lot of discussion we have in that topic. 
3. As she peels the cranberry fruits to extract seeds she said “a seed must die in order to grow. Is it really like that?” And we had a great discussions about the kingdom. 
Get some faith lessons from what you do together with other believers. Don’t just sit and open your bible and share truths. Live truths, daily ‘from house to house.’ Do something together. Learn together. It’s discipleship by life, not by book.

Housechurch: not as simple as you thought it is…

3 07 2017

A simple, organic, house church is not 15-20 people dropping to see each others faces once-twice a week in someone else’s house over a cup of tea with cookies or a meal doing bible study ‘meetings’ complete with praise and worship and prayers. Nothing wrong with that but nothing also could go right. We have been doing this for decades yet most Christians are still wearing their spiritual diapers and bottle milks, irresponsibly neglecting that it is their duty to either grow spiritually or buried in stagnancy. They still blamed this to others. 
A house-church, however you may want to call it is still the same number of people either living in one roof or in separate houses next to each other. Each one or family decided to live the Zoe-Life of Jesus to be live-out in a ‘daily’ basis and ‘together’ as ‘one family,’ not ‘Christian neighbors.’ (Acts 2&4, Heb.3:13). 
It’s a people who decided to deny themselves and so started serving one another. They make disciples to their friends and neighbors, baptizes them and get cleaned. Whenever someone wants to follow Jesus He said ‘sin no more.’ Be part of a bigger family: He who left fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, houses and lands shall have hundreds of them (Matt. 19:29). It is how Jesus defined His Church. 
They take care of each other’s needs. Instead of collecting money to pay high-maintenance facilities such as building rents and bills they go chose the low-maintenance of a widow who needs daily foods or medicines. They’re not only sharing their resources to anyone who has needs but they also share their burdens, struggles and yes, their sins to confession. They start ‘living’ that Life of Jesus they receive by ‘giving’ it to others. “By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.” 1 Jn. 3:16 
One of the disciples here is living with two widows. He buys them food out of his plants sale. He picks up woods for cooking and now building a wall around their room and a toilet for them to use. The ecclesia decided to rent them a land and build something that they can live in. One family we have decided to take in 3 orphans. They treated them as their own, clothed them, feed them, send them to school. And yes when they’re sick they bring them to the doctor. The ecclesia here decided to help that family when they needed something. Other disciples we sent not just to make disciples but to help pay electricity bills of widows in need. Repaired their leaking roofs or ceiling or build them a toilet. Some disciples decided themselves to help send children, orphans to school. Others served to drop them to school for safety. And others help prepare their school assignments. One disciple encourages the kids to type a chapter of a book in the computer as practice and rewards them. It be printed out and give away to other disciples or send them through email. Recently they type the “75 Commandments of Jesus” printed it and put it in every Bible to be given away to Saints around. 
These are unseen happenings because it is not a ‘weekly program,’ it is daily-life-together ‘from house to house.’ They cook food together with children to learn how to slice onions or make a dough. Saints washed togethers clothing with an extra clothes from a widow who cannot do it anymore. The boys are doing gardening or sewing a hammock or belt bags to sell. Their business is theirs, profit is shared and then everyone lays down not just their lives but also their money to help those who are in need. Kingdom principles of living is not meant to be limited only by memorizing them. You have to practice it as Jesus says “He who practice these things.” See also 1John 2:29 
So much needs to meet but if you’re just wishing to receive help and not give you will never get it. 
Everyone has something to offer. So everyone offers something. It’s when we believe we have nothing to offer when we start looking at ourselves. But when we look at other people’s situation you will be able to see how you can help them. A story below should help you understand what I just said. 
“I do nothing there if I go with you” says a foreigner, “I don’t speak your language so the people won’t understand me.” 
“Are you going to ‘talk’ there anyway?” Albert answered back. “Why not bring a nail cutter and cut the children’s finger nails there. You don’t need to talk. There’s so much to do. Surely you be cutting nails all day long!”


23 05 2017

There is another kind of ‘church meeting.’ It’s Hebrews 10:24-25. It’s a kind of meeting that came out of relationship. It is the by-product of our relationships. 
It’s guilt-free. “Is Monday night fine with you?” A brother ask. 
“No. Tuesday would be fine” was the response. 
“Ok. See you then.” That’s it. 
Not based on schedule or routine. “We should always meet on Wednesday night at 7pm.” And if we could not for some reason then we cancel it and do it next week, same day and time and place. 
Not based on program, “Our topic tonight is about Grace….next week is Love.” But our God-life itself becomes the topic. “You know I read something this morning,…and it makes me think…” someone might share. 
“A brother talk to me about what I did is wrong” another sister opened up, “and it help me see myself how selfish I am…” 
“You know what, earlier today as I went walking to the market I almost hit by a car,” one exclaimed, “but thank God it didn’t hit me at all.” A testimony, but you know it’s not the ‘religious way’ like “I want to thank God that I almost hit by a car,…(put up a smiley face with a little bit of reluctance to speak because you have to find the right words and phrase and yes religious terms) praise the Lord, I want to give all the glory to Him.” The person cannot normally speak. 
“I had a vivid dream last night,…” a single mother said, “what do you think is the meaning?” 
“The saints in our community just sent some help to another group of saints in another city” another brother shared, “they help a widow sister there to have her own room. And they needed more help.” 
“Where can we send? We want to help” said a couple who’s doing some business. 
Sounds familiar? 
It may not be because we have not realizes it or value it as ‘spiritual life’ because Christianity for us is not ‘living’. This is a relationship-based meetings, not meeting-based relationship. When we truly know each other and have become family to each other then our relationship is not ‘maintained’ by meetings.
When I went to India and a friend pick me up with his car full of saints. “Molong, tell me” he ask “are we church? Right now, this car is full of Christians.” 
To be safe I said “I’m not sure. Maybe?” 
“No.” He said straight “because we just knew each other. We do not have relationship with with each other.” 
Church is about relationships. Many churches have people yet lack relationships. Church is not just because you have relationships with the people there but because you also serve one another. Many churches have people and relationships but does not serve one another.

Do I have to go to church?

12 04 2017

Do I Have to Go to Church?
So, Do You Have To Go To Church To Be A Christian?
No more empty, striving, peace-less living. But, the Real Life you were created to experience, reveled in along with others who have also sold themselves completely to Jesus and His Church.

Many of us grew up having religious experiences that gave us a certain perspective of “church.” We concluded, “This ain’t nothing. This doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a bad organization. The organization I go to and attend on Monday morning from nine to five is far more organized, far more professional, with far more intelligent people performing their functions far more proficiently (and usually with more integrity) than what I see in this thing called ‘church.’ But I know I’m supposed to do this ‘church’ thing because it’s in the Bible.” Somewhere in the back of our minds and hearts we have different memories of our religious experiences. One of my memories, for example, is of my “pastor” coming over to my house and getting drunk on Saturdays while watching football with my dad. We all have our own stories that somehow discredit this thing called “church”, don’t we?
As a result, somewhere in the back of our minds we lost respect and awe for this thing called “church,” and in a sense, rightfully so, because most of what we saw didn’t really deserve respect. It was a contradiction. If you ask the average pagan or unbeliever to tell you everything they know about church, they could usually sum it up in one word: “Hypocrites.” Or, “Boring”, Both words are the same thing, really. Those words would be the very first things on the average unbeliever’s mind.
And for most of us, we grew up with those same sorts of concepts about the “church.” If we were on the inside because our parents were, then we would see the hypocrisy but think that maybe we could just fix things from the inside. And, you know, you can get accustomed to just about anything. You’d feel guiltier for not going than for going, so you begin to accept the hypocrisy as normative. You tolerate it and explain it away with “we’re only human” or “we’re all just sinners saved by grace.” You just create a theology to explain it all.
Seeing GOD Affects the Way You See CHURCH
They were devoted to the apostles’ teaching, to fellowship, to prayer, and to the breaking of bread—all these things have to do with other people and have to do with the Church.

But in truth, God means for the Church, the Body of Christ, to be viewed with an awe, and if we aren’t viewing it that way, then we aren’t seeing it properly. In those who first saw the Church, there was a transition that took place. It was reported that those early believers “were filled with awe” when they saw the Church. Something very dramatic happened in their lives to the extent that they all abandoned their separate lives and were together and had everything in common. It’s not just, “Yeah, yeah, I know. They loved Jesus. They gave their life to the Messiah who they realized had come. They repented of acts that lead to death.” Something else happened, too. They were devoted to the apostles’ teaching, to fellowship, to prayer, and to the breaking of bread—all these things have to do with other people and have to do with the Church. They instantly had a regard for the Household of God as something much more than a loose-knit affiliation of people who each believed in God. It was not just about praying in their prayer closets and then acknowledging these other people, “Well, they are Christians, too. I’m going to live for God, and they are going to live for God. So, we ought to at least try to get along and attend something together regularly.” That isn’t how the believers 2,000 years ago viewed the Church.
Instead, the way they viewed the Church affected every ounce of their being. When they saw the House of God, the gate of Heaven, something radical happened in the way they began to function with one another. They now saw their lives as actually belonging to each other, rather than themselves. It wasn’t just simply, “I believe the Messiah has come.” Something happened in the way they viewed other people. Something about Christ with His Head in heaven and His feet on earth was awe-inspiring to them and had a dramatic effect on their lives. It was a dreadful thing, not in the negative sense of course, but there was something very awe-inspiring about who Jesus was and is in His People on this earth. They saw it and they responded to it.
What is Church? What is a Christian?
The Bible defines Christians as ones who have forsaken all in order to be His disciple. They’ve lost their lives in order to find it. They’ve turned from sin…

From Jesus’ standpoint, for us not to discern the Body, is also not to discern Christ. For us to persecute the Church or minimize the Church or not esteem this thing called the Church is in turn doing the same to Christ. As I said before, we all grew up not esteeming the thing we called “church”. But the thing we were not esteeming was an institution. It was an organization. It was a religious group with some “belief system” that drew them together. But, in the average “church”, more than half of the attendees were not even new creations! If you were to go down any street in America, you’ll find that probably very few people in these “churches” who profess Christ and claim to be Christians are truly Christians, if measured against the Bible’s definition of a Christian.
The Bible defines Christians as ones who have forsaken all in order to be His disciple. They’ve lost their lives in order to find it. They’ve turned from sin and therefore can come to be called new creations because the old has been given away. They’ve died to sin and then buried it under the water. Most people wouldn’t come anywhere near a description like that. They want to live for themselves. They love the world and therefore the Scriptures say that they are enemies of God. They love the world and have not died to sin, therefore they are children of the devil (1 John 3). So, most of what we’ve historically called “church” really isn’t Church, from a biblical standpoint.
But, it’s not a measurement of maturity. It’s a measurement of what is the standard. Is the standard the Word of God? Is the standard the Life of Christ and the teachings of Christ? Is that what we live for? Is that what we are willing to die for? Or are we going to make little loopholes for ourselves? Are we going to try to create some other standard? “Well, let’s not take that too seriously. That’s not practical. If we live like that, someone might not like us. We might get sued.” Those sorts of human reasonings (which are wisdom from below, unspiritual, and of the devil—James 3:15), are what most religious bodies are built on. At the very least, most make great room for worldly wisdom.
The Church and Christ are Inseparable
If you are really a worshipper of God, you will worship Him like David did (as you can see throughout the Psalms) and zeal for God’s House will consume you.

If you say you love God desperately, don’t you dare try to undermine or underplay the relevance of loving the House of God, loving the work of God’s hands, loving the extension of God’s heart, loving the visible of the invisible God (as Paul said in Colossians).
It’s essential that you see the connection between loving God and loving His Body. Don’t pompously think that you love God, but loving His Body is secondary in importance. “I can be a Christian, but I don’t need the church.” Wrong. Because God in His infinite wisdom said that Jesus Christ is the head of His Body, and IN His Body He has chosen to invest HIS SON as “the fullness of Him who fills everything in every way.” COULD there be someone who says they love Jesus, but wouldn’t want THAT?! Unless you are a daily part of a local body of true Heaven-Born Believers, a Lampstand (not simply an “attendance-based” clergy-laity organization), you are missing SO much, for yourself and your family. A REAL Church is to be a daily Christ-honoring, Christ-centered, Bible-believing people who are walking in obedience to God—not just talking about it.
True Love Expresses Itself
If there is someone you love desperately, what do your mind and your heart want to do? You have to find some way to express that love. If I love someone, my mind is going to be creatively finding ways to express it by always thinking, “How could I do something special for them that would make them smile or take a load off their shoulders? How could I creatively find a way to get into their heart, into their life and to just do something special, with no need for anything in return? I just want to give.” When you really love someone, you just want to give. That’s the way it is with God, too. If you really love God, there is no way you can draw some line between loving Him and expressing that love in His House—with a zeal, a passion for the House. If you really want to serve Him, there aren’t a lot of ways to do that with a God whom you can’t touch, and whom no one has seen or can see, as the Scriptures say—the only immortal, invisible, great, and awesome God. How can you wash His feet? What other ways do you have to love Him if you don’t love His House and are not consumed with zeal for His House as was King David and Jesus?
So, loving His House is not an irrelevant point. But you being captured by the vision of loving His House is not a replacement for loving God. It is the overflow of loving God. Don’t you dare replace loving God with loving His Church, but understand that they are inseparable. Loving His Church is the overflow of loving God. If you are really a worshipper of God, you will worship Him like David did (as you can see throughout the Psalms) and zeal for God’s House will consume you. There is no way to separate that.
When the House of God is built on a foundation of walking in the light and a willingness to hear the Word of God and respond to the Word of God with Jesus as the standard, then there is nothing in heaven or on earth that can hold us back.

The Church must be built on the right foundation of obedience to Jesus and lives that are devoted to following Christ. These are not lives that claim absolute perfection, but they are striving for it and accepting nothing less while walking in the transparency with God and each other between here and there. So, if I see a particular sin in my life, it’s not the end of the world. If that sin has occurred in my life today, it is the end of the world, spiritually speaking, if I say, “I don’t care. That doesn’t matter. Mind your own business. Get the log out of your own eye.” When I refuse to walk in the light (honest transparency with real people who know God), refuse to humbly submit to the Word of God, and refuse to turn to God and the other believers around me in God’s Family, that’s when it’s all over. This is the verdict, Jesus said: Some love the light; some love the darkness. That’s the issue that divides.
When the House of God is built on a foundation of walking in the light and a willingness to hear the Word of God and respond to the Word of God with Jesus as the standard, then there is nothing in heaven or on earth that can hold us back. If, however, at any point, regardless of how mature we may be, we decide that we don’t really need the standard of the Word of God and the teachings of Jesus, when something less than the character and the full measure of the stature of Christ is acceptable to us, when we push away from any light that shines on the discrepancy between where Jesus is at and where we are—that terminates our existence as the people of God, at least as a Church, as a foundation that God can build His House on. That reverence and awe for the Church, the Head in heaven and the feet on earth has to be restored. That’s the point.
It’s a very simple Biblical idea. It’s not a deep, far-fetched concept, but people despise this revelation of the Body of Christ. They despise this idea of being joined one to another, being members of one another. These are gruesome terms to people who want to live selfish lives. They have no desire for the House of God. Zeal for themselves consumes them and they are not going to lose their lives. In fact, that’s a repulsive idea to them. They want to have what they want. They want to be gods who control their own destiny and perhaps others’ destinies as well. But to lose their lives as Jesus did, to make themselves nothing, to become a slave to others even to the point of death if necessary—those are despicable, scandalous ideas. Not only will they not do it, but they will also mock and blackmail anyone else who desires to live that way.
If you see this revelation of the Body of Christ in your lifetime, and give your life to this heart that God has for His House, you will be mocked and persecuted beyond belief. You will be called every name in the book. It is something very supernatural because satan despises that sort of agape love. To lose your life for the sake of others is a terrible idea to those who will mock and persecute. They think, “You can believe what you want to believe, but don’t you dare love people even to the loss of your own personal identity, possessions, and even life. Don’t you dare do anything terrible like that. But, if you want to believe a certain set of things, that’s fine. Just make sure you live selfishly, loving a worldly sort of lifestyle like everybody else does, and it will be fine. Just stay plugged into this socially acceptable, cultural, normative, satanic, American, matrix lifestyle…and don’t you dare ever love anybody. Then, you will be fine.”
However, if you’ll embrace this revelation of the Body of Christ in your lifetime, you will also experience the Reality of the Fullness of the Life you were created for. No more empty, striving, peace-less living. But, the Real Life you were created to experience, reveled in along with others who have also sold themselves completely to Jesus and His Church.